Shivaay vs Ae Dil Hai Mushkil: Which film will be the bigger grosser?

We won’t be starting a new Live QnA session today, instead we will be answering questions from last week’s QnA. So here we go..

Q. Ae Dil Hai Mushkil or Shivaay, which film has more pros on its side to become the bigger grosser in the long run? (Harsh)

A. Both are big films. Karan Johar films are keenly awaited and he has good cast. Ranbir Kapoor is going through a career low, but he is a fantastic actor. So it’s all about the trailer, music (very important for a Karan film) and eventually the content falling into place. Currently though, Shivaay is the hotter film. If all goes well and the film lives upto its expectations (scale and grandeur wise), then it could take the better opening too.

Q. Political parties are ready to boycott Fan and Raees.. So how much will the collections of the two films be affected? (Mayur Yadav)

A. People need to realise that the government is not supporting boycott of any film that has been passed by the Censor Board of Film Certification. No political party has called for boycott, whether it is Dilwale, Fan or Raees. Some shows of Dilwale were impacted to a certain extent, but both Fan and Raees are unlikely to be affected by disruptions.

Q. Can Akshay, Saif, Sidhu be given chance to release their films on Eid / Dilwale / Christmas like how other leading superstars easily secure these big release dates? Are they not bankable stars when presented with big festive dates? Suppose Airlift was to release on Diwali or Eid what will be it’s collection roughly and will its collection be like Bajirao Mastani?

A. There are different ways to look at this. Ideally, niche films (i.e films with limited appeal outside select centres like Airlift) should not release during festive weekends, because they can’t take full advantage of the holiday period. But assuming content clicks, a film like ‘Housefull 3’ can go on to be a huge grosser at the box office if it releases during Christmas / Eid / Diwali.

Also, higher ticket prices could affect ticket sales if the audience feel the movie isn’t ‘big’ enough. Bajirao Mastani was a magnum opus, a big screen experience, so the audience were more than willing to spend.

In short, big films need big budgets and hence need big dates to recover costs. So, one of the reasons why Khans want one of the three festive weekends, is because they spend upwards of 100 crore on their films. When the stakes are high, a film needs a good release date to have a chance of recovery.

No chance for Saif, his solo films don’t even get an initial during normal weekends. Who is Sidhu?

Q. Why are you not answering my question from last 2 sessions? I asked if Rangoon gets very good word-of-mouth and the multiplex audience like it, can the movie cross 100 crore? (Anshi Goel)

A. We don’t answer such questions because it’s impossible to predict word-of-mouth. And even if we assume the content is good due to director (Vishal Bhardwaj) and actors (Shahid-Saif-Kangana), the other big factor is appeal. Vishal’s films are not known to appeal to a large section of the audience. So if the film is only liked by metro city audience, it will find it difficult to do 100 crore. It has to have wider appeal and entertainment value.

One more QnA article will be published later today.

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102 Comments

  • Repeat of 2007. The mistake SLB made will be repeated by Karan Johar. Honestly this will be the wrongest time for Ranbir to release his movie. Even releasing with houseful 3 that is JJ is still suicidal talkmore of Shivay. Indicine poll it’s 4th most anticipated movie even ahead of Dangal that says alot about us the poll participants which movie will be a hot cake. My best Ajay Sir movie Outim Dilate hddcs Company and Khakee.

  • first of shivaay is going to open big compared to k.johar’s film. But for k.johar film to make a century,the film must give at least a better impression than student of the year. If its impression is less than student of the year,it will be a disaster. The responsibility for a better impression will be on anushka,her chemistry with ranbir,k.johar’s presentation because audience are not much excited about ash & also ranbir.

  • @indicine either u have no knwledge about bollywood or u really one of the biggest hatter of ajay devgn.. Shivaay is the 100% bigger than adhm i dnt agree even 1% with ur answer from today onwards i won’t ask any answer to u because u haven’t knwledge even this site users have more knwledge than u.. Read comments almost 99% user dnt agree with ur answer & will u bet shivaay will have almost double opening than adhm?

  • Agree with you indicine 100%. My only problem with Akshay is that he misused all his festival releases and normally distributors exhibitors joining hands with producers are all behind EDX. Ofcourse like khan’s with proven track record on holidays lucrative sticks with 100% success. Salman Eid Srk and Ajay Diwali Aamir Xmas. They are very wise and business minded easily they accept dates for them looking how successful their films may be last 10 years on edx.film like Chennai express Dabbing Singham Dhoom3 have the highest television views to date. If Akshay was to permitted to release his film these important dates he should have had atleast 2 films above 150 that I am sure of. Again had Blue Action replay ouatimd not released along with Srk ajay films that time they should have collected more. Houseful is grossing 200 cr mark my words. What do you say?

  • O indicine it seems u r full in hang over shivaay is any time bigger than aye dil hai mushkil shivaay is the dream project of ajay devgn & one of the expensive movie are u crazy indicine?

  • Adhm will crush shivaay in b. O. Mark my words.
    First weekend adhm -75 cr, shivaay-70 cr

    Liftetime- adhm-200 cr , shivaay-120 -130 cr

  • Jason stratan is featuring in Shivaay Hollywood. fast and furious expendable transformer stunt chief is doing the actions the vfx is grandeur it’s Ajay Sir movie so what will make me even bother about Bombay velvet 2? Shivaay only Diwali Raees only Eid Houseful 3 only post ipl Bahubali 2 only Christmas. I don’t like Sultan Mangal.

  • If karan johar direct had directed shits like soty he had directed awesomes like kal ho na ho & my name is khan never underestimate him

  • I have coppied this answer & will past in this site after diwali when shivaay will ruin to ADHM & will took tripple opening mark my word shivaay will release in almost 4800 screens & ADHM will release 2000 screens then do reply me please otherwise i’ll abuse u

  • @indicine could you please disclose the name of this khantard who has put akki and saif in the same category…!!!
    I would like to remind him that Akshay Kumar has also released his films on edx..
    Like welcome , garam masala and bhool bhulaiya …!!!! So he don’t permission from other actors to release his films on festivals…!!!!
    Some of films has failed I agree but that doesn’t mean u will put him with saif..!!!

  • @ Indicine : I have few questions :
    1) Is this news true that akshay kumar and vidyut jamwal have signed an action film and directed by ahmed khan?
    2) Akshay and alia bhatt in sriram raghavan’s next based on novel gone with the bullet – true?
    3) Akshay has signed awara pagal diwana 2 – true?
    4) Housefull 3 gets a solo release as jagga and raaz both have shifted – true?
    5) Heroines in rustom are esha gupta and illeana – true?
    6) can you update on airlift exact collection till this date?
    I asked above questions last week. Adding one more
    7) is akshay kumar doing a cameo in Dishoom?
    Please reply.

  • Why people don’t consider salman khan a good actor even though he has given good performance in starting of his career like mpk,hahk,saajan,tere naam,hddcs and now dabangg n bajrangibhaijaan?How a actor can survive for 25+ yrs if he doesn’t know acting?

  • @ politicle parties are against fan and raees aren’t but what i know each party has agent in every area so when election come agent distribute alchohol in public to take them in favour. agents have team so whatever politicians want their agents do for them. i am not a fan of srk and i don’t think anyone has a right to ask ban for his movie if srk talk about ban because fan or raees isn’t only srk’s movie many peoples effort behind each movies and they are not responsable for srk’s intolerence comment. if you have problem with srk write against him in facebook whats app, burn his poster etc. but if his movies don’t talk about intolerence in india or any objectional scene plz don’t ban fan and raees.
    i myself don’t vote to any political party because both offer alchohol and i don’t think any poor or mk gandhi type of indian can become prime minister of india.

  • Vishal Bhardwaj recently I read said Aamir khan was desperate to play the role of Langda Tyagi in Omkara. Rofl!!!!!!!!! Tight slap for those saying Aamir is bigger than Akshay Kumar. That’s the reason Aamir will not be as huge as the other triangle trio. I know Salman and Srk would have played that character not minding if they are lead or not lead but Aamir just proved he has no guts to try risky movies like Akshay Skk. Kaha ka superstar? Always scared to be overshadowed by others. Am sure he that that Sharman jhoshi Ravi Shorey kunal kapoor were playing Ajay role. Chota Don Amuur khan

  • Just wait and watch, Ranbir’s ADHM will show the real star power to AJay. Ajay is a very good actor no doubt but not a superstar. I know most of the Indicine members dont support Ranbir…for obvious reasons. Lets wait till Diwali to get the answer.

  • i dont understnd why people are angry about khans taking eid diwali and christmas release. these 3 have the biggest fan base in india and on holidays everyone can go an watch their movies. what is the point in releasing a movie of sid varun or any other “newcomer” if they dont have the fan base

  • @muscat – Salman highest opening non festival is kick which got 27 cr and there’s is no chance to get fan opening above 27 cr coz srk does not command fan following like Salman so don’t take more dream accept the reality

  • the 1. /2./ 4. questions are stupid. its impossible to predict something like that before seeing the movie or even trailer and music. always the same stupid qurstions

  • @Robot 2 crushes Records.
    Aamir liked the role of langda tyagi so requested the director to cast him. You know only one side.
    Other side is Vishal bhardwaj and aamir khan was doing some other movie before Omkara but that shelved because of aamir’s busy schedule, so the director thought if it happens again then omkara would be shelved too. That’s the reason why aamir is not a part of Omkara.
    Now laugh on yourself. Akshay Kumar is not even 1% of aamir khan. Aamir khan is bigger star than Salman khan and Shahrukh khan too. About akshay.. Haha lol,
    Akshay is nothing before 2007 and after 2007 so he ruled the Bollywood on only one year I.e 2007. Don’t let me bash akki. He is a good comedian.

  • About guts, apart from Aamir the perfectionist, No actor has guts to play any kind of role in Bollywood.
    He has spent 13 month to fit his body to play the role in Ghajini. Just imaging if Ghajini had flopped then what would happen to aamir’s image? Likewise in 3 idiots, he lose all the muscles which he gain after working too hard. That’s the guts.
    Most importantly he left Nude in pk
    Before the release many media made fun of aamir. Even in one award show one host made fun by saying
    Itne bade supstar ko nanga hone ki zarurat kyun pad gayi. The crowd laughed.
    If pk had flopped then everyone would have made fun of aamir. He don’t care all those things. Thats the guts. After universally acclaimed 3idiots he agreed to be part of offbeat movie Talaash, that’s the guts.

  • @Javed I disagree with ur predictoin.. you r trying to boot lick of Ajay devgan fan aisha.. ha ha…
    I m sure Adhm easly crush Ajay devgan shivay… Karan johar better directing than Ajay devgan…
    And Ajay have no stardom in metro multiplex like Ranbeer… Ranbeer will easly crush Shivay….

  • Ajay devgan is not a superstar… He is just star like nana patekar..hE is not perfect in romantic roles & dancing… After watching Action Jackson I decided to call Ajay devgan was worst dancer of bollywood… He is nothing without Rohith shetty…
    #Fasal kerala

  • I read ajay hve around 19 Disasters, highest? Is it true ? And what is the reason of such high number of disasters by him ?

  • Ajay devgan movies do well only on festivals mostly because audience goes to watch entertaining films on festivals nd he has always release big entertaining movies on festival but Shivay looking at different film.

    Adhm will be a bigger opener because of ranbir nd karan johar I feel nd Shivay with strong content can do better lifetime .

  • @Deadpool lol on u .
    So wht ? Did he said he is putting them in same category? Raising stupid questions . Shut up man .

  • But ajay devgn played second fiddle to ranbir in 2010 when Ranbir wasn’t even a huge star.Also Ajay is yet to cross even 75 without rohit or remakes.
    #Fact

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