Sultan vs Raees: Which film has the edge?

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Q. Mohenjodaro announced their release date first.. but now Akshay’s Rustom is releasing on same date and they are trying to scare away competition. Is this ethical? (Neeraj)

A. There are two ways to look at this. One, since there are just 52 weeks in a year and more than 200 film releases, there is no way to escape clashes. Every producer is free to pick the date he believes is right for his film.

On the other hand, there seems to be no unity in the industry. When a big budget film like Mohenjo Daro was announced almost a year ago and Hrithik was returning after nearly two years, the makers of Rustom not only announce the date of their film, but also try to create perception that their film is hot in the trade by releasing posters. Akshay even went to the extent of promoting his film on Zee Cine Awards and ensured that he highlighted the ’12 August 2016′ date in every tweet. For some reason, the intention doesn’t seem to be right. The film has just gone on floors about a month ago, Akshay has Housefull 3 before Rustom (promotional campaign for which hasn’t even started). The message seems to be – not only do we want the Independence Day week, but we will go all out to try to push Mohenjo Daro (since the stakes for the film are way too high) and give Rustom a solo release. Not too sure about the ‘ethical’ part of it, but the tactics that team Rustom is using, isn’t the nicest.

Q. What is the recent update on Raees vs Sultan clash? Is the clash still on or will there be a week gap between the two releases?

A. The clash is still on. There is no point in giving a gap of a week between the two films, it’s the holiday weekend of Eid that both films want. If that advantage isn’t there, it’s better to release one film a couple of weeks later.

Q. How many screen will be shared by both sultan and raaees on eid clash – who is having edge now and what is reason of edge?

A. Again, too early to talk about screen share. Screens can get finalised as late as two days before release. Bajirao Mastani shows were finalised at select multiplexes, just a day before release which also affected the advance booking of the film. As far as the ‘edge’ is concerned, Sultan is the hotter film in the trade at the moment.  Salman has dominated Eid, Eid has become synonymous with Salman. People wait for his films during this time of the year. It’s a no brainer, really. It remains to be seen how it goes after the theatrical trailer of both films are out. But eventually though, it’s all about the content. The better film will win and the weaker might underperform. If both films are extraordinary, they’ll still lose out on 25-30% of business.

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  • Content or no content I think Sultan will win by a huge margin .Imagine a rejected movie like Jai Ho which had nothing in its favour except for Salman himself has 1.43 crore footfalls while successful films like Chak de india (1.39) ,kal ho na ho (1.37) ,jab tak h jaan (1.27) ,mhn (1.26) and don (1.24) .just for the inf. Amir ‘s fanaa (1.39) ,sarfarosh (1.36) ,rdb (1.30) , taare z par (1.24) ,Ghulam (1.09 ). Some geniuses here redicules jai ho but i am proud of JH.this time Salman will b supported by Anushka , YRF,no sohail khan etc.above all salman is putting his everything in Sultan .

  • usually i love Akshay kumar movies…even when they are flops! basically i loved his comic timing. he is brilliant in comedy genre.
    but his moves against Mohenjo daro disappoints me. to me…its ethically wrong. there are available fridays in sept where u wont even face a clash. but they are intentionally doing this moves…dont know if the success of Airlift made him overconfident.

  • If rustom team is confident of their product they can take on with the mighty mj team..to get that success rustom team r maintaining the tempo n buzz continuosly..there is nothing unethical abt it indicine team..for the first tym i m seeing akki is promoting it so aggressively..even srk played smart during outim n chennai express clash and at that tym didnt u feel that srk was unethical..

  • Dear indicine team, I’m not agree with first answer you did. Please be neutral for everyone. Maker of Rustom ready to clash so why you jump on it? Akki sure destroy jadoo mohen-daru. This year belong to Akki’s movie. I’m busy with my new married life so I less on your site. I’m sure come back with bang when HOUSEFUL release time.

  • Getting tired of listening sultan raees fan n all..indicine seems to be khan friendly not neutral so boring..
    U must had posted article abt akshay Kumar open letter to stuntmen it was heartfelting bt u ignored..
    Don’t think it ld ve been d same if it was khan instead of akshay Kumar.

  • On BO prediction between Sultan and Raess, I expect Sultan to take better opening as Salman is most popular star in India today, but I expect Raees to win the lifetime battle because of its better content. Raees will also dominate Sultan in overseas, but that’s kinda expected.

  • I have seen many times you put akki down
    you says his fan following is not much as khan
    but according to others akki in fan following on par with khans
    look no actors accept khans delivers a 200 cr movie in india (not including Krish3 according to your so called trade :nothing against hrithik)
    but akki will be first to do it ……….according to trade airlift collected 7.1million but you said its 6.5 million
    you said releasing 3-4 movies per year does not affect boxoffice
    but according to your so called trade it affects , audience get divided becoz now a days a person cannot afford to watch a single hero flick due to high ticket rates….
    and according to your so called trade akshay never interferes in his producer decision but you drag akki also in a negative way (akki is not the producer of rustom )
    recently in amir article you again did the same thing with akki and indirectly bashes him on his multiple release .. ……
    If other khan actor went to bathroom you post that news too …but there are many news of akki which has to be posted you did not post
    recently akki writes a letter to the stuntmens but you did not posted that letter ……
    there are many instance where you put akki down which I cannot able write here ……

  • Completely agree with babaji..it seems as if indicine is against akshay Kumar..
    I don’t find nythng wrong with posters n promotion.. Dees days everyone does so..srk had release wid dilwale stil he released teaser of fan n raees way bfr..
    Mohnjadro team must ve der strategy invk

  • @xzone… but PRDP is better than semi porn fi of overactor, maya mem saab, english babu desi mem and even better than Crappy New Year, Crappy Express, Raavan (Ra.One), Jab Tak Hai Haddi, Excusewale (Hum Remake).

  • @Thug:: Releasing 2-3 posters is not overdose promotion and they will not continue the same till the release!
    Now the promotion has stopped,they just wanted to create some buzz for Rustom which I don’t think is wrong.Hardly anyone knew a film called Rustom even exusts before this publicity was done while Mohenjodaro is one of the most awaited release of the yeae since a long time.Rustom isn’t an easy movie to sell.Movies belonging to the 50s-60s era hardly open well,we saw that with lootera and Bombay velvet.

  • @javed, yeah I know CE broken all records but due to Hiked Ticket price.. price was too high bcz he promoted it even on Roads wearing lungi and danced on stage with lungi, he promoted all over the world wearing lungi….

    Eid Releases…
    Wanted – 60 crs..
    Dabangg – 140 crs it doubled the collection of previous film.
    Bodyguard – 148 crs… 8 crs difference.
    Ek tha tiger – 198 crs… 40 crs difference
    CE – 227 crs…. only 29 crs.. so difference between 2012 to 2013 is not like it was between 2011 to 2012.. so this data will be enough for illiterate like you…

    if salman would have released on 2013 eid, The record would have been broken but unfortunately salman had no film at that time… (actually CE was not scheduled for eid 2013, when makers heard that salman is not releasing any film on eid so then went on to release the film on that Eid).

  • @Indicine, u didn’t gave my answer…..
    Why always you support SRK ?
    Examples. ..

    ?) Today also u posted that “fan will watched by million of people so it will help sultan, but why didn’t you said same when Dilwale trailer was attached with PRDP or Raees Teaser was attached with Bajrangi Bhaijaan ?

    ?) Once you posted an article “Lowest grossers of an actor in this decade” to show srk on top that too with manipulation, but you haven’t yet post an article on “Highest grossers of an actor” bcz you know well that srk Is behind HR in that list… master game….

    ?) You increase numbers for SRK starrer ex. Ra.One, HNY, Don 2, JTHJ, but you decreases for others ex Ready, Bodyguard….

    ?) you say that ra.one collected 9 crs in other language but there is only one film which collected above 9 crs is Dhoom 3….

    ?) You don’t clarify on HNY opening (haven’t yet) (Hindi 42 + 3 Other)… then How a film which collected 3 crs in others language on opening day, collected only 6-7 crs in lifetime ?….

    @indicine, post this comment & plz give answer by cool mind.

  • @Babaji, I think you are being little harsh on Indicine. They have clearly mentioned that clashes are inevitable and nobody owns any particular release time. They have talked about ‘unity’ here. Not only Hrithik and Akshay are friends, but also neighbors.

    Commercially, it also doesn’t make sense to clash a big film with another big film for just 1 single holiday without any major festive advantage. Rustom would most probably do more business as a solo release than during a clash with another biggie. Nothing wrong with this, but it just doesn’t make much sense.

    Logically, it also doesn’t make sense that Akshay is yet to start promotions for Houseful, which releases 6 weeks before Rustom, but he, alongside team Rustom, seam in hurry when it comes about Rustom’s promotions. Again, not saying they are doing anything wrong, but it just doesn’t make sense to promote your next movie in full swing when your current movie’s promotion is yet to kick-start.

    Personally, I also think it’s just lose-lose situation for both, as there’s no big festive holidays like Christmas, Diwali or Eid. Akshay and team Rustom will be questioned more than Hrithik and team Mohenjodaro, because they came to the party later. I wouldn’t say their tactics are bad or odd (can’t say same thing about their choice of release date), but it isn’t one of the most friendlies either. Fortunately, both Hrithik and Akshay are friends and good human beings, so they won’t speak anything negative about either movie.

  • Hello indicine your saying that promoting rustom is not finest but why when akshay kumar anounced his outimd release date before ce but they released ce on same day you dont have any problem with that then why with RUSTOM

    why you trying to seperate akkians and hrithikians

  • If rustom n mj clash is not averted its not gud news for hrithik n his fans as the budget is huge it needs solo release but rustom team seems r very confident of their movie..mj needs to get extraordinary word of mouth to get hit tag but rustom can be success even at 90 cr since the costs involved r less..so clearly the fortunes r in favour of rustom
    .

  • Hrithik will beat the shit out of fake ‘patriot’ Akshay. HR is in the same league of khans. Akshay thinks Hrithik is not big enough like the khans. But he will get his answer this Independence week

  • akshay kumar has shown his real intention that is to make losses to mohenjodaro . yes mohenjodaro was announced to be released in 2016 august 12 way before in 2014 . but akshay intentionally and knowingly wants to clash rustom with MJO .. hrithik gave love to akshay and akshay gave hatred and loses to hrithik …………. now mr . joker kumar u will know who is HRITHIK roSHAn on 12 august 2016..

  • akshay kumar has shown his real intention that is to make losses to mohenjodaro . yes mohenjodaro was announced to be released in 2016 august 12 way before in 2014 . but akshay intentionally and knowingly wants to clash rustom with MJO .. hrithik gave love to akshay and akshay gave hatred and loses to hrithik …………. now mr . joker kumar u will know who is HRITHIK roSHAn on 12 august 2016..

  • @Babaji ka thullu : Well…kinda agree with your points. However although Rustom is set in the 50s / 60s era you can’t really compare it with the likes of Bombay Velvet and Lootera, coz BV came after successive flops of Ranbir (Besharam & Roy) and Ranveer was not an established star before Lootera. That won’t be the case for Rustom as Akshay is a superstar in his own right and he will be coming after 2 big hits (I am vouching for HF3 to be a big one as well).

  • I think raees will be much better film in content wise. So raees will eventually win. But clash will definitely both films. I m waiting for raees.

  • @Indicine, your answer is completely partial on MohenjoDaro and Rustom.

    Just because I announce a date 10 years before doesn’t mean i have my rights on it.

    Rustom is being made on a tight budget, and is completely niche film, and hence good promotion is needed to get attention.

    No one stopped makers of Mohenjo to start their promotions. It is not that just because Rustom started promotions others cannot start.

    Stop blaming and making allegations on Rustom for absolutely no fault of theirs, or no action from Mohenjo team.

    I saw no hue and cry when other start promotion of film more than a year in advance. Now suddenly when Akki starts promotion of movie, it is seen not in good taste. Wah !

  • Profound disappointment of all Hrithik fans or those pretending to be fans of Hrithik. So much hatred, so much dirt they pour on Akshay because they are afraid that Rustom will be the leader. In turn, we fans Akshay are not afraid of losing and wish success both films

  • @indicine

    you say sultan edge over raees ..hotter in trade ..

    i think jab dono ke tralier ayenge tabhi hotter kon ..aur poor kon ye pata chalega

    abhi aap bol rahe ho ..sultan hotter ..and raees haar man gaya abhi ke liye ..

    but ..srk la ye dialogue mat bhulana ..

    “Harakar jitane vale ko Bajigar kehate hai !!!””
    and also Dont underestimate power of King khan ….

    ye bass hai haters and ap logo ke liye !!

    aur ye dhyan mai rakho ..

    salman try to beat srk first day and weekend record ..with PRDP but it failed with same diwali period .

    and i think in terms of opening N weeknd srk is bigger star than others …
    lifetime to content decide karega ..

    opening and weekend mai Raees baji marega …

    sab 19 ,20 hai apna neta Raees hai !!!

  • rashmi @ 7.21 pm i dont pretend to be HR fan but i m the die heart fan of hrithik ok and its not ethical to release movie with any pre announced movie on a particular date if a whole month is empthy for u. i.e september 2016 .. it shows wt it shows not hrithik but akshay is insecure about hrithik … not vice versa..

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