Kaabil vs Raees: How the clash is affecting business of two good films

Our Twitter timeline has gone crazy today with most people failing to understand what we try to squeeze into 140 characters. We don’t want to blame them because every Tom, Dick and Harry today talks like an all-knowing trade analyst.

On a more serious note, two big films released in theatres this week and unlike most other clashes, both films are finding acceptance amongst the audience.

When a film like Rustom and Mohenjo Daro clash at the box office, the impact is minimal because one film (Mohenjo Daro) was rejected outright while the other became a runaway hit at the box office. Rustom became a super-hit, while Mohenjo Daro probably didn’t deserve to collect more than it actually did.

Ae Dil Hai Muskhil and Shivaay didn’t majorly affect each other’s business too, because the Karan Johar directed film performed very well at city multiplexes, while Shivaay proved to be a non-starter at multiplexes and only performed at single-screens and smaller centres.

This week though, is different.

On Day 1, it was a one-sided contest with Raees – riding on better promos, high pre-release interest and the star power of Shah Rukh Khan – swept Kaabil aside.

But it’s on Thursday (holiday) and evening, night shows on Saturday, when the impact of the clash has started to have a real impact on the business of both films.

It’s not the screen or show count here, but when two good films are running in theatres, the audience has to make one choice between two films.

Given the high price of tickets (a movie outing for a family of four, can easily cost anywhere between Rs 2000 – 4000 including snacks etc) very few families can afford to watch two movies in theatres in the same week. In fact, the super performance of Dangal not too along ago, would’ve also had a small impact on both Raees and Kaabil.

On Saturday night, when the word-of-mouth was beginning to come into play, Kaabil isn’t really getting the breathing space that a film like this needed. It’s running on lower capacity screens at multiplexes and it has fewer shows too. The night shows were running to full capacity at several theatres, there was demand for more tickets, but tickets weren’t available.

The business of Raees is getting affected too, else the film would’ve easily collected about 20-30% more than it has so far. Not just because of fewer shows, but also because the audience has to choose between two films.

Shah Rukh Khan won’t get the major grosser (200 crore plus) that does justice to his stardom and stature. He needs to be competing with the likes of Aamir and Salman Khan here. Hrithik Roshan too won’t get a big grosser, even though it’s his first good film in 5 years. Producer and Distributors of both films lose money .

It’s a clash that should not have happened. It’s too late for Raees and Kaabil, but producers of other films should try and avoid clashes like this in the future. The exhibitors lose, the audience lose and the industry – which barely manages to get 10 clean-hits in a year – also ends up losing business.

P.S: We hope that the clash between Tiger Zinda Hai and Rajkumar Hirani’s Dutt biopic is averted and both films get a solo release and the kind of showcasing that they deserve.

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  • Raees is more youth friendly than family as % of kaabil drop more in working day but jump more in non working day, Raees is srk best film of this decade deserve to collect more than HNY

  • And actually RAEES is well made movie.
    SRK n Nawaz..?
    SRK in negative role with good heart..No anyone match his charisma..<3

  • I think you Indicine people are forgetting that there is one more Week before Jolly LLB2 releases. And if both films are finding acceptance than Why can’t they attract audience in 2nd Weekend (if Dangal can collect 70 crore plus the Kaabil+Raees can atleast collect 50 cr)

    I am hoping both movies holds well on weekdays.

    My Prediction:
    Raees : 170+ cr lifetime
    Kaabil : 105-115 cr

  • Everyone saying SRK shouldn’t have clashed. I agree.. He made the wrong decision.

    But what happened to HR and Rakesh Roshan? Where did their maturity go? RR is a veteran and he definitely understands business better than most ppl in the industry.

    Raees couldn’t have postponed again and that’s probably understandable as it had been postponed once before. But Kaabil had that option. Instead RR calls it superstition. seriously?

    Eros also called it the same during BM vs Dilwale. Today RR calls it. And when they say superstition or mahurat etc, nobody(including SRK) can negotiate further.

    Conclusion: I mean if u want to rely on superstitions then our industry can never be like Hollywood and avoid clashes as HR wants it to be. It’s high time beliefs and business be kept separate and brains r used in making decisions. If Kaabil would have released even a week later or before it would have still got the same response. There was no point for clash

  • Superb article..
    Its a loss all the way..
    But why SRK did this to the people.
    Had they kept a poll public should have voted it.
    Now as Rakesh sir say that bollywood is going backward.
    Its our turn that even in festifal we shouldn’t have watched the movies

  • Jolly but I think G3 was with far lesser screens and way back 2010 if not mistaken Ajay Devgn 1st 100 cr. It clashed with Akshay film too but housefull3 was a franchise one of the biggest ,with release date same period Twm returns Yjhd were released but they earned much more than H3. Just agree H3 was a big let down. I like Akshay don’t forget but speaking truth

  • Why ppl blaming srk fir the clash , they can blame rakeshji ya phir salman for clash , srk announced eid release 1st bt salman too booked it for sultan, so srk let it go he then booked republic day which kaabil had booked bt before kaabil , badshawo of ajay had booked it which later pushed it off , when rakeshji can book on a date announced by ajay why cant srk do , srk hav gone to rakeshji twice for requesting him to shift kaabil, he shud hav understand sentiments of srk , raees was not released n delayed due to so many reasons, when srk announced raees to b released on jan which he did during april_may , kaabil shooting was not even started so srk told tat he wl talk with roshans for shifting their film ahead bt tat fools n ego rakeah was mad , he even taunts srk by announcing krish4 on cristmas to play bad game , bhai har koi hadd karraha tha so tiz clash was a need n its not a loss for srk bt i think raees gained a lot for srk tiz time amazing opening in jan with a clash n amazing craze which means his landmark film can break any records in market , time really matters n when right script wl come hurricane wl arrive in the film industry , most chances are on cristmas18

  • Latest

    DAY 1: KAABIL Collection

    Trade FIgure (source BOI) = 7.75 – 8.00 Crores
    Producer Figure = 10.43 Crores
    Difference – Approx 2.43 Crores Which is a Difference of Close to 30%.

    DAY 2: KAABIL Collection

    Trade Figure = 16 Crores (All Languages)
    Producer Figure = 18.67 Crore
    Difference = 2.67 Crore appro

    DAY 3: KAABIL Collection

    Trade Figure = 7.5 Crore (All Languages)
    Producer Figure = 9.75 Crore
    Difference = 2.25 Crore

  • Shivaay was an absolute shittest movie ever made in recent yrs only good thing about shivaay were its locations otherwise there was nothing in that film even mohenjo daro was far better than shivaay. Ajay can do better than this I remember back in 2012 sos vs jthj both films did really well and I really liked sos. Looking forward for his upcoming baadshaho which I know will be a hit.

  • Saw both raees and kaabil liked kaabil better only thing I hated about raees is its end otherwise its a full of entertainment film.

  • Dear indicine I have worked for world prestigious marketing research firm ac nielson org marg for 2 years. I also knew how company like rentrak works as I am very much keen on page 3 business and my thesis of masters degree was also based on that. My question is why movies like sultan dangal 3 idiots have no deviation at all when it comes to trade vs producers figure and rest like krissh 3 and now kaabil have deviation like unseen degree. Hence we must understood though nothing official indian box office can be tracked down to almost accuracy. It has been questioned that how will we measure single screens and interior sales but that also we can estimate by data sampling and result will be uniform through out and thats how it works through out the world. In india business takes secondary place and pride takes 1st hence clashes are not avoided and is costing huge oppertunity loss. Also producers are giving fake figures to save their brand instead they are ready to pay more tax, thats not business but thats how we keep afloat in bollywood. Now coming to deviation in producers vs trade figures it seems more a matter of ability vs choice. I think sites like indicine indiafm boxofficeindia.com have ability to extract near about accurate box office figures as they are doing in case of few movies like PK Sultan dangal and 3 idiots. Incase of other movies if they seems highly manupulated and if prestigious site like this choose to remain mum its matter of choice not ability as their ability is unquestionable today. Sites like this in near future will fruit profit equivalent to huge businesses tomorrow but its high time they should start investing on their credibility innovation and goodwill. They r no nobrainer like kaamal r khan they r answerable to the viewers of their site which made them this big and content to make huge in tomorrow’s time. Its not only the matter of shame but ethical irrevelevant and illogical to cheat on todays audience. Lets make it simple we want you to be the modem to access right boxoffice figures which is our right, no more bull shit. Have you heard any hollywood movies faking their collection? lets make a giant stride on this aspects of business and help this industry go better way otherwise soon just like people dont trust cricket match results because of match fixing movie business will be the same story. Thanks.

  • @indicine… by looking current trend of both movies… what would be the first week collections for both movies if they got released on separate non-festival weeks.

  • what do you talking about Kabil , this kind of movie is to old now 4 days already been and still he can’t cross 50 cr mark this is only papa roshan calculater shame on him . roshans should not call a superstar . cheap takla will make it 15 cr today and make it 55 cr even indicine is also very supporting them despite they are providing the fake collection since day one .

  • Raees would have collected 225cr if released solo on republic day. kaabil would have collected 110cr.
    Now 150cr and 75cr.

  • raees …….jannat remake which itself is inspired by deewar, ganga jamuna,aur jitna villain glorification wali picture hai jisme police pe jussa aata hai same main to kehta hoon jannat dekho gaane bhi acche hai aur dialogues bhi

  • @Jolly beta Tanu weds Manu 2 did 155 with no holiday Ram leela too all earned more that Crapfull3 so stop talking trash.

  • This clash was happened because of Rakesh Roshan ego and arrogant . he is the chepest person in the world and he clash because of he was king of manipulated that is why . you all will see he will make the collection more then 100cr but actually collection will finish below 75 cr . I think he is gay ( chakka ) hrithik doesn’t have a stardom his movie is opening below then 9 cr and called him superstar . shame on . that way kangan says without his fake father he is nothing why every time father needs to save him .

  • Not that am a very big Fan of Ajay but by far he is a more all rounder actor than Akshay the movies they both acted in showed it all(3 movies). I am happy G4 will give robot 2.0 a solo no excuse because I very well know Bahubali 2 will crush Robot 2 Rajni sir movie and for maturity from Ajay Rohit camp I wish G4 from bottom of my heart a very successful franchise and who are you to call Hrithik small actor? At least MD collected 4 times Joker since both were rejected. After The Khans its still Hrithik , Akshay Post Neeraj Kumar is the most overrated actor this few years because of Content not his Real starpower his star power are House full 3 Boss Khiladi 786 not Deshbhakt films

  • Team Indicine , iam glad that your team is giving equal importance to both movies unlike others sites which is giving high importance to raees and rejecting kaabil. Both are good movies and it’s good for Bollywood that 2017 is Kaabil for being Raees this year.
    Best wishes

  • We all know what manipulator Shahrukh Khan did when he requested and pleaded with Jeetendra to delay their ‘OUATIMD’ and. Obtained a solo release for ‘Chennai Express’. A week later he didn’t spare decent screens for the Balaji film.

    Same with the ugly Dilwale – Bajirao Mastani clash, Om Shanti Om -Saawariya clash.

    There is only one villain in the industry, the unworthy Khan

  • Hrithik Roshan too won’t get a big
    grosser, even though it’s his first good film in 5 years.”
    Agneepath was a nice movie !! Krrish 3 was also big hit..N one of the highest grossing films .Bang bang although got critical reviews n clashed with Haider collected 180 cr nett..In India. Only Mohenjo-Daro was a bad movie n was a outright flop.

  • @Hafeez
    Who is this genius here claiming that Ajay would have had two 200 cr grossers till now if his movies didn’t clash?? That guy has only 3 100 cr movies till date, all of them Rohit Shetty films and/or franchises.

    Even if Shivaay/SOS released solo on Diwali, the multiplex audience wouldn’t have come out in big numbers. It would have earned just 30-40% more.

  • Finally saw Kaabil. Makes you laugh, cry and sinks in to your gutt and makes you st end wanting for more. Excellent acting by Hrithik. Wish Raees had not clashed with it

  • Kabil has no issues on 26th jan .
    Its problems start when srk declared 26th jan as srk fan its Insane .If Raees makers choosing Non holiday weekend like in late February or post IPL they had better screen and no fight in friends .If Raees release on that time it definitely collect atleast 100cr in 3 days with normal weekend or 2nd 4th saturday weekend holiday release .During this Raees atleast collect 200cr .(its not a film like Bajragi bhaijaan which has meamt to be made for 300cr .But Raees is better than srks Happy New year with clash Raees not passing 160cr while solo non holiday weekend it might cross 220cr as i think .Its really Bad decision by Raees makers and only they should have to blame themselves .No matter they are making profits on Raees atleast 150 global share and 60cr TV rights .But they are Not making profits .Kaabil film made for 130cr film but sad to see such .

    Bar bar dekho weekend was completely wasted by Excel entertainment .They should got 4 day weekend there too With SRK focused on 1 different film in 2017 .

    Only srk is blamed for this act .

    As a Fan i love him but Clash with other Films Doesn’t make any Sense and why he is clashing with other films that doesn’t understand .Hope The Ring gets good response it doesn’t has any negative factor like Raess and 200cr to 240cr film .But the standard set by Salman and aamir are 300cr and srk is way back to 200cr difference between them in solo film .Anand L Rai film moght be his comeback film which might cross 300cr but at that time Salman aamir on different levels .

    Love u srk
    but plzzz do some better films not like Patriotic themes like akki doing in every film to kill that genere .But u know what u have to do better plzz srk ….U have everything but we have nothing without you and you need to avoid these things that making you at lower side

  • This is what Rakesh roshan was trying to say from last 3 months. It was bit unetical to blame SRK every time but he was rignt in most of his interview. As Rakesh roshan said Raees was sure shot 250+ grosser ( Solo release )

  • I agree they are both suffocating each other, raees team tried to bully their way on the date, thinking kaabil will blink, kaabil was sure they had a masterpiece which they do and didn’t blink. raees should have tried to get Eid to maximize it’s masala content instead of a one day holiday. kaabil didn’t blink and srk’s ego and insecurities that people will think he is weak didn’t allow him to back off, plus he didn’t expect kaabil to gain acceptance because the trailers seemed like it had given away everything which turned out to be wrong.even if it makes more, he ran the risk of people comparing performance and content, which kaabil has an upper hand and most people and critics except those not truthful feel Nawaz overshadowed srk. this shouldn’t have happened.

    ps: srk fans focus on your movie stop trying to pull another down, they both have good potential to be a hit, but you guys viciousness with srk pictures on most of your profile is not a good look on your hero and makes neutral audience like me dislike your hero

  • At the time of Rustom MD clash you said that the class was actually helping Rustom. But now you are saying that it has eaten into business of both the films. I think the class has helped both the films. The class has become kind of an event freshest time which a single film on republic day can never make. In short, even in this case the clash hasn’t eaten into business that much, rather it has given a certain hype which the republic day releases lack.

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