IndicineLBO: ADHM, Shivaay Lifetime Prediction

It’s been a difficult prediction to make, because over the first weekend it was almost impossible to pick the trend of the big Diwali releases – Shivaay and Ae Dil Hai Mushkil.

Not many in the trade had much of an idea on which way the two films would go and most still don’t. The reason for this is the ‘Pre-Diwali’ period. Ajay himself had said in his interviews that the ‘real weekend’ begins on Monday.

The word-of-mouth that the two films are carrying has also been difficult to ascertain, but here’s what we’ve been hearing from different people about the two films.

Shivaay:

  • Too long: Ajay was quick to realise this and immediately cut the film short by 10 minutes.
  • The film is not close to as bad as the critics made it out to be: A section of audience is liking and enjoying the film.
  • Action, emotion and visuals: The biggest ticket sellers
  • Emotional connect missing: Is what the audience who haven’t liked the film are saying.
  • A section of the trade believes a turnaround could happen and Shivaay could sustain and even surpass ADHM in the long run.
  • Bigger the centre, poorer the collections. So far, Shivaay has failed in big cities, which are huge contributors to film business these days due to higher ticket prices.

ADHM:

  • Star Cast, Music and Karan Johar film are three of the biggest reasons for ADHM easily winning the first 4 days at the box office.
  • The word-of-mouth is good in major cities, but the film doesn’t seem to be working at smaller cities and towns.
  • The first half has been received well, performances loved, but the problem lies in the most important (second) half which the audience carry back home.
  • Extreme reactions to the last 30 minutes, a small section of the audience has liked it, majority haven’t.
  • If cities continue to perform, ADHM will maintain the lead, but will it hold up after the festival period ends? That seems to be the big question.

Overall, it’s difficult to pick one winner. We believe the lifetime total of the two films will be around the same level. It’ll be good enough for Ae Dil Hai Mushkil to emerge victorious (because of its solid economics), but Shivaay still has a mount to climb in the next few days.

Time will tell, but we are going with Karan Johar’s Ae Dil Hai Mushkil as the winner of the Diwali clash.

The numbers that we had on the site for last couple of days, remain the same, but ADHM has been reduced by a few crores. 95 crore for Shivaay and 102 crore for ADHM. The final IndicineLBO box office prediction.

MovieWord of MouthPredictionActual
Collection
DifferenceResult
DilwaleMixed145 cr148 cr2%Accurate
Bajirao MastaniExtremely Positive168 cr187 cr12%Accurate
WazirMixed35 cr40 cr14%Accurate
AirliftPositive143 cr127 cr11%Accurate
Kya Kool Hai Hum 3Negative34 cr31 cr8%Accurate
MastizaadeMixed29 cr32 cr10%Accurate
Saala KhadoosNegative16 cr14 cr12%Accurate
Ghayal Once AgainMixed39 cr36 cr*8%Accurate
Sanam ReMixed28 cr29 cr3%Accurate
FitoorExtremely Negative23 cr19 cr17%Inaccurate
NeerjaPositive70 cr74 cr6%Accurate
Teraa SurroorNegative12 cr13 cr8%Accurate
Rocky HandsomeNegative26 cr25 cr4%Accurate
Jai GangaajalNegative33 cr32 cr3%Accurate
Kapoor & SonsPositive66 cr72 cr9%Accurate
Ki And KaPositive54 cr53 cr2%Accurate
FanNegative95 cr84 cr11%Accurate
BaaghiPositive84 cr75 cr11%Accurate
AzharNegative35 cr33 cr5%Accurate
SarabjitMixed26 cr28 cr7%Accurate
Housefull 3Mixed105 cr107 cr2%Accurate
Udta PunjabMixed72 cr59 cr18%Inaccurate
SultanPositive305 cr302 cr1%Accurate
DishoomMixed62 cr69 cr11%Accurate
Mohenjo DaroNegative54 cr59 cr9%Accurate
RustomPositive102 cr126 cr23%Inaccurate
Happy Bhag JayegiMixed21 cr26 cr24%Inaccurate
A Flying JattNegative33 cr37 cr12%Accurate
AkiraMixed27 cr28 cr3%Accurate
Baar Baar DekhoNegative38 cr31 cr18%Inaccurate
Raaz RebootNegative28 cr27 cr3%Accurate
PinkPositive54 cr65 cr20%Inaccurate
M S Dhoni biopicMixed138 cr133 cr4%Accurate
MirzyaNegative9 cr10 cr11%Accurate
ShivaayMixed95 cr96 cr1%Accurate
Ae Dil Hai MushkilMixed102 cr111 cr9%Accurate
Rock On 2Negative13 cr10 cr23%Inaccurate
Force 2Mixed35 cr34 cr3%Accurate
Dear ZindagiPositive65 cr66 cr1%Accurate
BefikreNegative58 cr60 cr3%Accurate
DangalPending315 cr---
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92 Comments

  • adhm will score 120-135cr lt. u haven’t forgotten dhoni lbo right? ? i got it right despite ur repeated efforts to prv that it won’t cross rustom and once even doubted that dhoni may not cross 110cr..!!

  • & Dhoni wom is termed as ‘mixed’ while rustom is honoured with ‘positive ‘ tag…??? Waah

  • Nice article team indicine. It’s really difficult at the moment to predict who will win the race eventually.
    @indicine do u really think dear jindagi will score so low? I mean only 76??

  • Shivaay- 95cr
    ADHM- 102cr
    That too with clash. But gigastar’s solo release content rich billu2 collected only 80cr. Now whom should we consider bigger star Ajay/Ranbir or gigastar???

  • So admin is predicting 95 cr for Shviaay and labeling it as FLOP. Kitne paise kha kar baitha hai tu Admin bata seedhe se. Karan Johar tujhe follow kar raha hai toh hawaiyan na maara kar.

  • Ae Hit Hai Mushkil has no chance of crossing that 100cr mark, Public response is more imp than the crap paid remarks by so called critics…Shivaay’s growth in Business on Yesterday and Today is Proof that the Battle is not over yet and it will beat the Shit out of that crap Rom-com…Peoples’s praising Ranbir’s act BT calling Movie Mahacrap and Tortures with Many dull moments while Shivaay is atleast one time watch and Enjoyable…!

  • So admin is predicting 95 cr for Shivaay and labeling it as FLOP. Kitne paise kha kar baitha hai tu Admin bata seedhe se. Karan Johar tujhe follow kar raha hai toh hawaiyan na maara kar.

  • any sane person would stay away from predicting Aamir’s movies’ collection…especially during Christmas.

    Here’s a man who not only smashed bo records during the period but set the bar so high that his competitors are still struggling to touch that mark and their pathetic fans/closet fans are busy giving lame and laughable excuses to belittle those records. Feel sorry for them.

  • @Arjun Youngistaan Fan 9:19pm

    Yes…you got everything right. Now it’s time to see your 260cr (40 millions USD) overseas prediction for ADHM is getting right or not!

  • Shivaay- 95cr
    ADHM- 102cr
    That’s mean much more than Galaxy gigastar’s content rich billu2 aka fan.

    #RIP gigastar!!!

  • Trade people on Twitter like Rohit jaiswal are saying ADHM needs 120 cr to be a clean hit. So with 102 cr it will be average no? And Shivaay will be a flop at 92 cr is your prediction?

  • What a shame for ajay fans lost opening weekend battle and now lifetime battle too.Please don’t dare to call him star anymore

  • My prediction for both movies.
    Adhm : 110 to 120+ crores
    Shivaay : 70 to 90 crores ( of course with manipulation )
    1 multiplex = to 10 single screens.
    Adhm should also cross 300 gross worldwide…..!!!!!!!!

  • great work indicine…you can never go wrong and that’s what I lve about your website..
    keep it up indicine!!!!!!!!!

  • Disaster Safar Aamir Ka
    Dangal aamir ki manzil
    Raju Papa ke bina guzaarah
    Ae Aamir Hai Mushkil
    Maana ki Raju Papa teri mojoodgi se
    Aamir ki zindagi baroom hai
    zina ka koi raju papa ke bina
    Na aamir ke dil ko Maloom hai
    Raju papa ko aamir kitni
    shiddat se chahe
    chahe toh chodle raju papa ko
    Disasterrr khoobsorat hai
    dangal se bhi
    Aamir ki har kamee ko
    raju papa ki laazmeennn
    junoon hai raju papa ka
    banaye aamir ke films hit
    Raju papa ke bina guzarah
    Ae Aamir Hai Mushkill…

    Don’t enjoy this song alone. Share it on WhatsApp, FB, Skype and many more as this is my new version of song
    #True Salman Fans

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