Will Welcome Back and Hera Pheri 3 work without Akshay Kumar?

Q. Can ‘Welcome Back’ and ‘Hera Pheri 3’ become blockbusters without Akshay Kumar’s presence? - Wasaf Shaikh

A. Amongst lead actors, Akshay Kumar probably has the best comic timing after Govinda. His presence will definitely be missed in both films, more so in ‘Heri Pheri 3’ because the reason for the popularity of the series is the much-loved chemistry between Paresh Rawal, Suniel Shetty and Akshay. The actor replacing him (John Abraham) has zero comic timing, but has done well in comedy films with multiple actors. So both films that you ask about, can still be blockbusters as long as the content is liked and the actors perform well.

Q. What is the release date of Shahrukh Khan’s Fan and Rohit Shetty’s next? - Charlie

A. Rohit Shetty’s next film with Shahrukh Khan is confirmed for Christmas. The film goes on floors on March 4 and shoot will be wrapped up by August / September. FAN doesn’t have a release date at this stage, but we hear the film has been pushed to 2016. A fairly reliable source has also informed us that YRF could be targeting the post-IPL period for FAN and a Christmas 2016 release for Raees. However, it’s probably a little too early to talk about both films.

Q. Why a film like ‘Baby’ has failed to collect at the box office even though it was highly praised by the audience and critics - Dhaval Patel

A. The genre of the film has limited appeal. Even a film like ‘Talaash’ featuring arguably the biggest box-office star in the country, collected Rs 90 crore. A multiplex targeted thriller like ‘Don 2’, released during Christmas, did business of around Rs 110 crore. For its genre, Baby did well at the box office, but the problem for the film was its economics. Such films need to be made within 50-60 crore, including star fee, to be profitable. Else, the risk is way too high. If Baby wasn’t a well-made film, it would have been a disaster.

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Q. Hi Indicine! Big fan of your site and I follow it almost every day. Why did everyone stop updating PK’s box office collection after 6th week? Can you please update its latest reports and if possible its worldwide collections? How long more will PK run till it closes its lifetime? And will any movie in the below given list be able to cross 300 crores in coming years - Bajrangi Bhaijaan, Prem Ratan Dhan Payo, SRK - Rohit Shetty’s next, Sultan, Raees, Shhuddhi. Just tell me by seeing how good the directors of these film have done in the past and by analyzing the release dates of these films - Blake

A. The collections of PK are in thousands now and it has ended its run at most centres. The film has collected Rs 340 – 341 crore. Worldwide gross is Rs 614 crore. As for films crossing the 300 crore mark, all those films that you mention have a chance as long as they have universal appeal, word-of-mouth is extra ordinary and the opening is good. 300 crore will still be out of reach for films that don’t do well in the long run, even if they manage to collect Rs 200 crore in Week 1. Only two films have collected more than Rs 250 crore at the box office – PK and Dhoom 3, both collected a little more than 180 crore in Week 1, but while PK managed to cross the 300 crore mark, Dhoom 3 didn’t. The difference was content.

Q. Why Ranbir Kapoor signed Roy when he knew the film wouldn’t work? – Ravi Kishan Arya

A. Roy was a win-win situation for both Ranbir Kapoor and T-Series. Our sources say, he was paid Rs 10 crore for a extended special appearance, which is a lot of money! If Roy failed, it wouldn’t affect Ranbir’s standing in the industry. T-Series marketed it smartly and they say Roy is a profitable venture for them. If not for Ranbir, the film would have finished under 15 crore net at the box office.

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66 Comments

  • Hopefully Dangal clashes with Raees on Christmas 2016.

    I feel Aamir will take his time to make the film and then suddenly announce 23rd December 2016 as the release date of Dangal.

    This year’s Christmas will be Don 2 and TMK revisited

  • Welcome back without Akshay will be a huge flop. No one can beat Akki in comedic timing. In terms of overall stardom and craze
    1.Salman
    2.Akshay Kumar
    3.Aamir
    4.Srk
    5.Hrithik

  • Well, has reported PK collections at 649 cr. and you people at 614 cr.
    Gosh, you just can’t trust these websites anymore.
    340 is huge!
    Don’t think any of the above films can get a word of mouth like Raju-Aamir in this industry no matter how good their film is.
    ‘Trust’ is a factor as well.
    People blindly trust Aamir(and Raju too) to give a movie worth their money. No other actor has such a reputation in Bollywood.
    What’s the use of Star Power and Popularity if you can’t even make good, leave alone, excellent films.

    • @Ishan, It’s not our problem if a website cannot get the entertainment tax calculation right. Please do not post figures from other sites here, pointless.

      @Aman, we do not subscribe to the China collections of Rentrak. Unless and until the makers of the film release a statement, we cannot confirm how it has performed in China. 5000 theatres was a press release, we haven’t received collections so far. Dhoom 3 collections were released.

  • @indicine

    I have a question for you….hope you answer it.

    Recently there was a big hoopla that HNY is releasing in China in 5000 screens.

    Now that it has become a big disaster there, Rentrak is reporting that the total screens were somewhere in the proximity of 1200 and not 5000 as reported.

    Who is lying here?

  • Heri pheri3 welcome back… Will not work widout akshay ……..!!..
    All the baby naysayers …… Here is the kick …….!! ….

    Flop actors like ranbir cannot do such roles like baby …….!! …. As they are girlish persona……!! … Neither they can do intense films ……..!! ….

    They r tailor-made for chubby hunky dory girl-ish rom-coms ….. Which run on affair rumours,link-up hypes on lead …….!! … Specially female lead…….. !! … Bombay velvet flop …..!! …

    Thank you Akshay sir…. For doing baby ………!! ….. U r versatile…
    U can run film widout ….. Link-up hype, rom-coms , hunky dory chubby films ,,, ……..!! ……..

    Waiting for gabbar, Sib …., brothers..(Akki starrer ..)….!! ..!!

  • my question to u is why akki bhaiyaa hasn’t given a single
    super hit in last 3yrs and just 2 successful films in lead role out of his last 8 releases???

  • @a kapoor f
    because akshay bhayya do multiple relise with small banners and low promotion.
    Still he give quality filims like spl26,holiday and baby.
    Pls change your name to boney kapoor fan becuase arjun is nothing without his dad.

  • Welcome is mainly about nana n anil so akkiz absence wil not affect welcome back if it is entertaining but hera pheri 3 will b affectd
    anyway acc to me
    WB-Avg
    hera pheri 3-hit
    shuddi and prem ratan has a chance to beat pk

  • hoping @yrf next with @iHrithik should release Christmas 2016.
    I am too excited for this one directed by vijay krishna acharya.

    HRITHIK ROSHAN

  • I think both welcome back n hera pheri 3 will work at the boxoffice as they have franchise factor and recall value but i don’t think they will be anywhere close in content to their prequels..

  • Arjun Kapoor Fan, My question is why have the last 5 or 6 Youngistaan failed?? FInding Fanny,Kil Dil, Dawaat-e-ishq, Tevar Roy,etc???

    Ajinkya,

    I am also an Akshay fan……….. but I would like to know………. is there a problem ……… with….. your full stop button …………. as……you ..are…. placing…….. too……. many….full……stops…..and………….it……is…….becoming………..hard…………..to……..read………..like……….this……….

  • Lifetime box office of Indian films in overseas:
    Dhoom3- $ 4 million
    3 Idiots- $ 3 million
    HNY- $ 0.23 million

    Opening weekend in China:
    Dhoom3- $ 1.35 million
    3 Idiots- $ 1.15 million
    HNY- $ 0.14 million
    A big lol to people who were jumping saying “HNY gets 5000 screens in China”

  • How many of u think dat d srk fans hav worst prediction dan our weather department prediction??? Their 300 cr storm is still coming…lol

  • Agree with indicine..BABY was’nt genre friendly plus it was poorly marketed too..it could have done more than that.
    Also absence of music hurt them.
    People here get attracted to good music so easily.films like yaariyan,ragini mms2 opened so well bcoz of music.

  • Srk fans situation is same like icc world cup” Mouka Ad”still waiting to beat aamir khan..score is 4-0 next yr 5-0

  • Tight slap to Aman by indicine who is ranting about HNY china collections. Even desastrous shatimitabh did 324.000$ on 700 print how come HNY did just $213,000.

    @indice don’t compare baby (2015) release with don2 (2011) and Talaash (2012). Even if akshay does both multiplex and mass friendly movie it won’t cross 200 cr. and baby had fantastic action and all actors performed brilliantly and dearerved more than 125 cr But rhythm is akshay don’t have same star power of khan and HR and even Ranbeer. But yes if Akshay was there in welcome back and HP3 it would have watchable.

  • And my question is why is’nt Arjun kapoor retiring from films after flops like tevar,fanny,aurangzeb??
    None of the directors want to cast him,producers are afraid..sunil lulla is still in deep shock!
    He should try the spotboy job in khans,hr,akki films now serving tea,coffee to them and cleaning their vanity vans.

  • atleast akshay give 1 good movie per year s26 holiday baby brothers next year airlift but others stars are just 1 bad movies per year ie tevar

  • noooo, plz for god sake do not disapooint us! i don’t care about bo collection we want fan and srk rohit shetty next year year and raees in eid 2016 …
    and on christmas 2016 any new srk film especially action thriller movie no more delay plz….

  • noooo, plz for god sake do not disapooint us! i don’t care about bo collection we want fan and srk rohit shetty next this year year and raees in eid 2016 …
    and on christmas 2016 any new srk film especially action thriller movie no more delay plz….

  • @Arjun morons, why akki can’t give single super hit in last 3 year?,
    From 26th jan 2012 – 26th jan 2013 = ONE year.
    From 26th jan 2013 – 26th jan 2014 = ONE year.
    From 26th jan 2014 – 26th jan 2015 = ONE year.
    Altogether 3 year, from 26th jan 2012 to 26th jan 2015.
    Chameleons open your polluted eyes and see below;
    1. Houseful 2 = Super-hit
    2. Rowdy Rathod = Blockbuster
    3. OMG = Super-hit
    4. Special 26 = Hit
    5. Holiday = Hit
    Semi-Hit movie
    1. Khiladi 786 = Semi-Hit
    Above average movie
    1. Baby = Above-Average
    Average movie
    1. Entertainment = Average
    Last 3 year, 3 movie only flop.
    Total releases 11 movie and flop only 3 movie.
    @Arjun chameleons, Besharam Velvet going to big flop. Your chameleongiri is over now and get ready for Gabbar which release 1st may.
    1.

  • A very good question by Wasaf Shaikh . John is a good actor and has improved his acting by leaps in bounds . For that you have to watch Shootout At Wadala and Madras Cafe . But the fact is he is very bad in Comedy . He is nice in Garam Masala but he was pathetic in Housefull 2 . He suits best in action roles ex. Dhoom, Force, Race 2 and SAW . I don’t think WB will be a huge problem because apart from Akshay Nana, Anil and Paresh will play very important roles . I have a high doubt for Hera Pheri 3 . Because there can be no Hera Pheri without Baburao, Sham and Raju . Not only Akshay nobody can replace Sunil and Paresh . Abhishek is also a part of HP 3 . He is good in Comedy and has shown brilliant comic timing in Bol Bachchan and Happy New Year . Also HP 3 will be directed by Neeraj Vora who is not as brilliant as Priyadarshan . Phir Hera Pheri was a Superhit but people loved HP more than Phir Hera Pheri . So let us see what will happen at the end of the year ……

  • A slight correction:
    Lifetime box office of Indian films in China:
    Dhoom3- $ 4 million
    3 Idiots- $ 3 million
    HNY- $ 0.23 million

  • @Arjun chameleons, you wait for besharam velvet which over budget movie going to epic flop.
    Akki is khiladi.
    Youngistan is Doodh pita huwa kid. So chameleons keep quit.

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