Shivaay vs Ae Dil Hai Mushkil: Which film will be the bigger grosser?

We won’t be starting a new Live QnA session today, instead we will be answering questions from last week’s QnA. So here we go..

Q. Ae Dil Hai Mushkil or Shivaay, which film has more pros on its side to become the bigger grosser in the long run? (Harsh)

A. Both are big films. Karan Johar films are keenly awaited and he has good cast. Ranbir Kapoor is going through a career low, but he is a fantastic actor. So it’s all about the trailer, music (very important for a Karan film) and eventually the content falling into place. Currently though, Shivaay is the hotter film. If all goes well and the film lives upto its expectations (scale and grandeur wise), then it could take the better opening too.

Q. Political parties are ready to boycott Fan and Raees.. So how much will the collections of the two films be affected? (Mayur Yadav)

A. People need to realise that the government is not supporting boycott of any film that has been passed by the Censor Board of Film Certification. No political party has called for boycott, whether it is Dilwale, Fan or Raees. Some shows of Dilwale were impacted to a certain extent, but both Fan and Raees are unlikely to be affected by disruptions.

Q. Can Akshay, Saif, Sidhu be given chance to release their films on Eid / Dilwale / Christmas like how other leading superstars easily secure these big release dates? Are they not bankable stars when presented with big festive dates? Suppose Airlift was to release on Diwali or Eid what will be it’s collection roughly and will its collection be like Bajirao Mastani?

A. There are different ways to look at this. Ideally, niche films (i.e films with limited appeal outside select centres like Airlift) should not release during festive weekends, because they can’t take full advantage of the holiday period. But assuming content clicks, a film like ‘Housefull 3’ can go on to be a huge grosser at the box office if it releases during Christmas / Eid / Diwali.

Also, higher ticket prices could affect ticket sales if the audience feel the movie isn’t ‘big’ enough. Bajirao Mastani was a magnum opus, a big screen experience, so the audience were more than willing to spend.

In short, big films need big budgets and hence need big dates to recover costs. So, one of the reasons why Khans want one of the three festive weekends, is because they spend upwards of 100 crore on their films. When the stakes are high, a film needs a good release date to have a chance of recovery.

No chance for Saif, his solo films don’t even get an initial during normal weekends. Who is Sidhu?

Q. Why are you not answering my question from last 2 sessions? I asked if Rangoon gets very good word-of-mouth and the multiplex audience like it, can the movie cross 100 crore? (Anshi Goel)

A. We don’t answer such questions because it’s impossible to predict word-of-mouth. And even if we assume the content is good due to director (Vishal Bhardwaj) and actors (Shahid-Saif-Kangana), the other big factor is appeal. Vishal’s films are not known to appeal to a large section of the audience. So if the film is only liked by metro city audience, it will find it difficult to do 100 crore. It has to have wider appeal and entertainment value.

One more QnA article will be published later today.

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102 Comments

  • I like Ranbir Kapoor but I don’t think ADHM will be able to match up with Shivay. Expecting Shivay to beat ADHM in opening as well as overall collections.

    Difficult to make predictions without trailer, no of screens, movie content etc but as a hunch I would predict 105 cr for ADHM and 155 cr for Shivay.

  • Yeh Sidhu kaun hai???
    And coming to Shivaay VS ADHM clash i can’t say abt ROI bt in kolkata it will b ADHM all the way bcz of the genre as well as Ranbir being a bigger star here than Ajay whose most film underperform here.

    Ranbir’s Barfi YJHD did over 7.5cr here while Ajay’s highest grosser is SR at 5.2cr..!!!

  • Really Indicine?
    You really think ADHM can give any fight to Shivaay?
    Didn’t expect such immature reply from you. I think you are not writing the truth just to please others.

    Shivaay >> 10xAdhm

    I tell u why.

    1. Buzz of Shivaay is 100x Adhm right now.
    2. Ajay Devgn coming with a really high scale movie and this is definitely looking that it will be best action movie of bollywood till date and best of Devgn without any doubt.

    3. People want to see high scaled movie. That’s why dilwale got little competion from BM. not bcz ranveer is bigger than srk or slb bigger commercial director than rohit. And srk > full bm cast. Only thing that made difference was scale.

    4. All romantic and love stories movies in last 10 years on any festive season is low performer or flop.

    Let’s bet If adhm even gives 10% competion to Shivaay then I will leave Internet. And if not then please shut down your site.

    What say?

  • Ranbir was great in Rockstar and particularly in Barfi. Then he made some bad choices and let Ranveer and Varun go ahead of him. But he will soon make a comeback. He and Ranveer are the future.

  • The clash between Shivaay and ADHM will be pretty interesting . Ajay has a 100 % success ratio on Diwali . Also Karan Johar has a 100 % success ratio . But Ranbir has not given a Hit since May 2013 . If JJ releases before ADHM than it will be really tough for RK . 2 years JJ was one of the hottest movies in terms of buzz but now it is in the news for all the wrong reasons . Ranbir is the Producer of JJ so he will be blamed for the failure of JJ . Shivaay is generating superb buzz . After G3 Shivaay is one movie which has generated huge buzz in this decade . Shivaay looks different and Ajay is leaving no stone unturned to make Shivaay something special . The pressure on AD is huge as he is the Actor + Producer + Director but one who sustains pressure emerges as a true champion . I think Shivaay will do more than ADHM on first day . In terms of lifetime collections nothing can be said now . ADHM is a Romantic movie and people are not appreciating such kind of movies so the pressure is huge on Dharma and KJO .
    Total collections and verdicts of Sanam Teri Kasam, GOA, Sanam Re, Fitoor and Loveshuddha .

  • Barfi,Airlift,Haider,Queen,Piku,Kahani, Bhaag Milkha Bhaag all are niche films & collected only in big city Multiplexes.

    If a niche film like Haider can collect 60cr lifetime with Clash & BMB can collect 100cr.
    So,With good content & WOM Rangoon can get a Huge Lifetime with Moderate opening as in 2016 only the films with positive Reviews,Good Content & WOM are working at BO.

    Example, who thought before the release of Neerja that it will be a Fire Cracker at BO.
    Audiences are very Intelligent today.
    Now a days Audience Theory is Serve us Good film & we will watch it at Theatre.

  • What is the status of ghayal once again.some news paper says it is a success for sunny deol.why official collection not updated.did you not think trade baised with sunny deol.before release trade no expectation from movie BT movie done well in singal screen theatre and recover its cost.I accept movie is not big success BT small success also give boost to struggle actors carriar and surprisingly sunny deol now a days talking point on social media and very positivity this time around him

  • Karan johar films are keenly awaited!! really? . I know Indicine is SRK fan and we don’t expect you to write anything about Shivay. Waiting waiting waiting only for Shivaay.

  • There are nearly more than 500 questions
    But u guys answer only 25 of them not fair
    If u answer 40 questions in an article then it would very good …!!!

  • Shivaay will surely win this race and Adhm can’t even touch Shivaay. As both movie will release on Diwali and Diwali is a very religious festival for hindus and afterall shivaay is based on Lord shiva so ofcourse shivaay will attract more audience towards him and no one will go to watch bombay velvet 2 as Adhm.

  • Why do you think that FAN wont be a big Opener? If it Opens @ 25 Cr day 1, will you consider SRK a bigger crowd puller than Salman in India ? Overseas is it certain to break opening records ?

  • Adhm vs shivaay box office comparison :
    Shivaay screen count in domestic
    2900 screens
    In overseas 700 to 900 screens
    With extremely positive wom.
    1st day : 17-20 crore
    2nd day : 19 crore
    3rd day : 20 crore
    Monday : 24 crore
    Tuesday : 15 crore
    Wednesday : 13 crore
    Thursday : 11 crore
    1st week : 140+ crore
    Lifetime : 180+ crore
    Overseas : 60+ crore
    Adhm : screen count 2700 screens
    Overseas : 800 screens
    With extremely positive wom.
    1st day : 16 crore
    2nd day : 18 crore
    3rd day : 19 crore
    4rd day : 22 crore
    Tuesday : 15 crore
    Wednesday : 13 crore
    Thursday : 11 crore
    1st week : 115+ crore
    Lifetime : 160+ crore
    Overseas : 70+ crore
    If both carries positive wom both will cross 150 crore each ….!!!!

  • @ indicine
    Why does srk praising himself? I think The biggest problem of Shahrukh is he always praise himself. I’m the king, Baadsha, jungle ka sher blah blah… The most disgusting part is In Upcoming movie FAN he says without any shame that Duniya ka sabse bada superstar ka sabse bada fan. Here again he praise himself. Shahrukh ka sabse bada fan shahrukh himself. Lol

  • ADHM is same ghisa pita routine formula film… Ranbir is coming without Deepika… So he is just equal to Tushar kapoor…

    @indicine Ranbir is 1 dimensional boring actor..

    Adhm will be Flop…

  • KJOs usual over the top melodramas won’t sell as hot cakes like they used to be before. So obviously the onus are on Shivay to take the lion’s share as far as opening goes. However trailers of both films can give a better perspective. But as of now Shivay holds the upper hand. Moreover Ranbir’s slump in the BO since 2013 won’t auger too well for ADHM. The trick here will be sustainability one would feel, if Shivay as a whole package does cater for the masses and ADHM is yet another close to 3hr long stretched melodrama then I guess this would be a one horse race. But as I said, trailers will give a better idea…

  • @ muskat- what do you mean by crowd puller? collection doesn’t mean crowd. crowd means footfalls and it is fact srk is smaller star than salman in terms of footfalls.

  • dear indicine….kindly answer some informative question……like past trivia…boxoffice comparison. …..same type of questions and answers repeated will hurt popularity of this section. ….or make on articles like what is true atbb, what are actual atbb till date….what are highest music sold…..what is inflation adjusted highest grossers till date….answer few but it will be very informative and interesting. ….may be have to work more but if possible do it…..

  • I think, my question is enough good to be answered!
    People have liked the trailer and anthem of fan film, also their is alot of positivity about the film and the most important thing is that film has Srk, the n why u r considering that fan will get opening of 20 cr, i. e,i think low for actor like srk, plz give me answer!

  • I think Ajay has 100% success in Diwali. He did some crappy films it’s true but let’s not forget he is Ajay Devgn he takes on anybody he is the 2nd superstar after Shah rukh khan with clean victories with clashes. 3rd actor to join the 100 cr coverted club twice surprisingly before the 3 Rd Khan scoring big non holiday releases Singham Bol Bhachan June July. Won back people’s respect with Drishyam I feel sorry for because of bajrangi bhaijan bahubali brothers mi5. Doing unthinkable which even his fans was surprised is it 32 cr only Aamir khan Salman khan Shah rukh khan managed to achieve so why not. I am not his fan that much but cannot deny the fact he is a wonderful down to earth actor so no malice for Ajay it is his ambitious project it is not any actor can remove 120 cr too make a film act direct sing no no no let’s support Shivay and every other films of Akshay Salman Aamir SRK Hrithik and show these small boys that old is gold and the older the win the sweeter. No youngistan movie will pass any of the above mentioned actors.
    Adil from Surat.

  • PR team of Shivay doing a good job so far , they created some hype n without seeing anything we r pretty sure that its gonna b a epic.
    But never underestimate a film which doesn’t create any news on d process of making.
    Dharma s a giant who knows how 2 do it .
    So just wait n see….

    Fan Trailor Tomorrow.

  • NO DOUBT.
    BW SEQUAL IS COMING ON DIWALI BY KARAN JOHAR.

    INDIA IS WAITING FOR ONLY SHIVAAY.
    SHIVAAY IS CONTENT BASED MOVIE

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